Madsen joined me in an exclusive interview and answered my questions about the 9/11 attacks, Israel's dominance over the U.S. media and the prospect of Iran-U.S. relations.
Wayne Madsen: I don't believe the attacks were planned by the FBI. I believe they were an operation carried out by Mossad, Saudi intelligence, with which Mossad has had and continues to have a close relationship since the days of the Safari Club of western and Middle East intelligence services combining their operations, and elements of the CIA. Cossiga, Gul, parliament members in Germany, Britain, and Japan, the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, and others all understood this was an inside job that also involved a handful of people at the top of the Bush administration, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, A.B.Krongard of the CIA, and Rudolph Giuliani, as well.
KZ: In 2003, you stated that you uncovered documents which reveal a relationship between the Saudi government and the S-11 hijackers. It's a complicated issue; you know, from one hand, Saudi Arabia is a strategic ally of the United States in the Persian Gulf region. From the other hand, the United States attributed the attacks to Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, which we already know rose to prominence with the indirect and direct support of the United States. At another side of the story, we find the close relationship between the House of Saud and the Bin Laden Family which is a major stakeholder in the Saudi economics. How is it possible to solve this complexity? Can we conclude that the old friends became new enemies and betrayed each other?
WM: The Sauds and the Bin Ladens were close allies of the Bush family, which had everything to gain in the 9-11 attacks. The only way to discover the Saudi role is for a Saudi whistleblower to come forward; however, that may only happen after the inevitable overthrow of the Saudi monarchy. As many Saudis know, the Sauds are not only in lockstep with the Americans and Israelis but they are descendant from a Jewish merchant family that originally lived in what is now Kuwait. Wahhabism in fact serves the interests of Israel's Zionist Judaism, both emphasize extremism and sectarianism that keeps the Middle East in constant turmoil and extends the rule of the Wahhabi Sauds and Zionists.
KZ: You know that the Iraq of Saddam Hussein era was a close ally of the United States in 1980s. The United States gave the green light to Saddam to attack Iran, and backed him strategically, militarily and financially. 20 years later, the equations changed altogether. The close ally became the villain and came under fire. The man whom the United States had equipped for waging a war against Iran was arrested and executed by the same United States. What happened that changed everything in this way?
WM: This is part of the U.S. policy. Use leaders it creates and then dispose of them. It has happened with Ngo Dinh Diem in South Vietnam, Manuel Noriega in Panama, Trujillo in Dominican Republic, Savimbi in Angola, and the lost goes on.